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		<title>It&#8217;s Politics as Usual at City Hall</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Meredith Martin</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Condominium Law]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[San Francisco Condo Conversion Lottery]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[condo lottery]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[San Francisco has a lottery system that selects 200 units annually for conversion into condominiums. With 1,799 units having lost the lottery this year and a multimillion-dollar deficit to close, Mayor Gavin Newsom proposed legislation that would allow these units to bypass the lottery system by paying a $20,000 fee per unit. The cost would’ve [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>San Francisco has a lottery system that selects 200 units annually for conversion into condominiums. With 1,799 units having lost the lottery this year and a multimillion-dollar deficit to close, Mayor Gavin Newsom proposed legislation that would allow these units to bypass the lottery system by paying a $20,000 fee per unit. The cost would’ve been reduced depending on the number of years one had participated in the lottery.</p>
<p>But, the proposal was slammed by Budget and Finance Committee Chairman Supervisor John Avalos, who said it threatens San Francisco’s rental stock and encourages evictions. The condo conversion is “a program to disincentivize the turning over of rental property,” Avalos said.</p></blockquote>
<p>So with the city in a desperate situation and San Francisco with one of the <a href="http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06/06075.html">lowest Home-Ownership</a> rates in the state the call is we&#8217;ll lose precious rental stock.  Um &#8230; Ok!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sfhomeblog.com/2010/06/good-news-regarding-tic-lottery-bypass.html">Good News Regarding TIC Lottery Bypass</a> [SFHomeBlog]</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/Supervisors-kill-condo-proposal-96954359.html">Supervisors Kill Condo Proposal</a> [SF Examiner]</p>
<p><a href="http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06/06075.html">Quick Facts San Francisco</a> [US Census Bureau]</p>
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		<title>Good News Regarding TIC Lottery Bypass&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rita Roti</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Plan C]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[San Francisco Condo Conversion Lottery]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[San Francisco Condo Conversion Reform]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s been about a year and a half that I first starting hearing about momentum building to allow TIC units to pay to bypass the rather byzantine condo lottery system.  I thought it was exciting news, but unlikely to gain traction in our city.  Still, many TIC owners I spoke with were very positive about [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been about a<a href="http://www.sfhomeblog.com/2009/01/pay-to-by-pass-condo-lottery.html"> year and a half</a> that I first starting hearing about momentum building to allow TIC units to pay to bypass the rather byzantine<a href="http://38.106.4.205/index.aspx?page=1242"> condo lottery system</a>.  I thought it was exciting news, but unlikely to gain traction in our city.  Still, many TIC owners I spoke with were very positive about the possibility.  Now that the city is in financial distress and looking for new income streams, the idea is back and included in the <a href="http://www.sfmayor.org/policy-finance/">proposed city budget</a>!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.plancsf.org/about/">Plan C</a> has the details and included the information in their<a href="http://www.plancsf.org/action-alerts/?email=email+address&amp;imageField.x=12&amp;imageField.y=5"> email action alert</a> yesterday:</p>
<blockquote><p>The details of the proposal are as follows:   TICs must have  participated in the 2010 condo conversion lottery in order to be  eligible for the condo bypass.  The fee for the bypass starts at $20,000  per unit for those who first participated in the lottery in 2010, and  declines by 20% for each previous year of unsuccessful lottery  participation. So, if 2010 was the first year your TIC participated in  the lottery, your fee will be $20,000 per unit in the building. If 2010  was your second year, your fee will be $16,000 per unit. If 2010 was  your third year of participation your fee with be $12,000 per unit. If  2010 was your fourth year $8,000/unit, and if it was your fifth year and  beyond, $4,000/unit.  Note:  If your TIC only qualified to participate  in the last 25 units which were drawn from Pool B of the 2010 lottery  (because of eviction history), you are not eligible for the one-time  bypass.</p></blockquote>
<p>Plan C has been active in promoting this issue and has worked to create a solution that helps tenants as well.</p>
<blockquote><p>The proposal will bring significant revenue (likely in excess of $8M) to  the city during this time of budget crisis – money that will provide  funding to affordable and supportive housing programs that might  otherwise be cut.  At the same time the legislation will bring much  needed ownership and mortgage relief to middle income San Franciscans  that owner occupy their TICs.  This is sensible legislation that helps  everyone — it addresses the needs of TIC owners AND provides funding to  low-income residents with special housing needs.  Tenants are also  protected — to be eligible to participate in the lottery, the TIC  building must not have been subject to recent<a href="http://sfrb.org/index.aspx?page=966"> Ellis Act evictions</a>, must  not have evicted any <a href="http://sfrb.org/index.aspx?page=965">protected tenants</a> and must not have more than one  <a href="http://www.sfrb.org/index.aspx?page=965">no fault eviction</a>.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, what to do to help this proposal be included in the final budget?  Well, I&#8217;m going to second the call to action that Plan C proposes:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>How you can help?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Email the Mayor and Key Supervisors</strong><br />
The <a href="http://www.sfmayor.org/">Mayor</a> and the<a href="http://www.sfbos.org/"> Supervisors </a>need to hear from us — contact them today  by clicking on the <strong> “<a href="http://www.plancsf.org/contact-city-hall/">Contact City Hall</a>” </strong> link to the  right — let them know that you support the one-time condo bypass. Tell  them that the program would help thousands of first-time homeowners,  would hurt no one, and that it would help solve the City’s budget mess.  And then tell them that you support overall reform of the completely  broken condo conversion process! If you have the time and desire to call  them, do that too. You can use this website to do it.</p>
<p><strong>Attend the budget hearing on June 21</strong><br />
The condo bypass will be considered at the budget hearing at City Hall  on June 21. The hearing starts at 10AM, and the Condo Bypass is Item  Number 4.  We don’t expect the Board to get to Item 4 until at least  noon.  Please come and speak in public comment – tell the supervisors  that you support the condo bypass! We know that the opponents of this  program will be out in force – so it is critical to have supporters  there as well.  If you are able to attend the hearing, let us know by  email at <a href="mailto:info@planc.org">info@plancsf.org</a> – we may  be able to give you better information as to exactly when to show up as  it gets closer to June 21.</p></blockquote>
<p>What else can you do?  Join <a href="http://www.plancsf.org/donate/">Plan C</a>,  at least sign up for their <a href="http://www.plancsf.org/action-alerts/?email=email+address&amp;imageField.x=12&amp;imageField.y=5">email updates</a>, talk to other interested owners and get people to email and call our representatives.  This is a real opportunity to try and get this done!  For all you owners with group loans, wouldn&#8217;t you love to be able to have your own loan as rates are so low currently?  It&#8217;s time to embrace this and allow more owners to condo convert!</p>
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		<title>Prices over the Years: 2 Bedroom Tenancies-in-Common</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 20:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Meredith Martin</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[TIC]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[san francisco buying]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[2 Bedroom Tenancies-in-Common Click on graph The periods in which both the lowest and highest number of sales occurred in each area are noted. When the number of sales is very low, statistical analysis is generally not meaningful. The Median Sales Price is that price at which half the properties sold for more and half [...]]]></description>
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<div><a href="http://www.sfhomeblog.com/uploaded_images/2-bed-TIC-742522.png"><img alt="" src="http://www.sfhomeblog.com/uploaded_images/2-bed-TIC-742520.png" border="0" /></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;">The periods in which both the lowest and highest number of sales occurred in each area are noted. When the number of sales is very low, statistical analysis is generally not meaningful.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:85%;">The Median Sales Price is that price at which half the properties sold for more and half for less. It may be affected by “unusual” events in any particular period or by changes in buying trends, such as a market shift to lower-end home sales (such as is happening today &#8212; to a large degree due to the current difficulty in financing the purchase of more expensive homes, and for houses, due to the significant increase in foreclosure sales in some neighborhoods).</span></div>
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		<title>Individual Tax Bills for Tenancies in Common One Step Closer</title>
		<link>http://www.sfhomeblog.com/2008/05/individual-tax-bills-for-tenancy-in.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 20:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Meredith Martin</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Plan C]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[real estate san francisco]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[As we first reported back in September of last year (courtesy of the &#8216;head&#8217;s up&#8217; from Gordon over at Plan C), it looks as though Phil Ting from the San Francisco Real Estate Assessor office is looking to make good on his offer to help clarify the oft confusing, record keeping nightmare facing many Tenancy [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we first reported back in September of last year (courtesy of the &#8216;head&#8217;s up&#8217; from Gordon over at <a href="http://www.plancsf.org/">Plan C</a>), it looks as though Phil Ting from the San Francisco Real Estate Assessor office is looking to make good on his offer to help clarify the oft confusing, record keeping nightmare facing many Tenancy in Common owners come tax time.</p>
<p>As it stands, there is one stunning tax bill sent out to all Tenancies in Common, regardless of how many individual units exist within the TIC, or how long the TIC has been in existence. That tax bill, in it&#8217;s simplest form, is split by the individual owners based on their percentage of ownership of the Tenancy in Common. The trick begins once an owner sells, or remodels &#8211; thereby triggering a reassessment (aka increase) in property taxes &#8211; the increased portion of the tax bill then becomes the responsibility of the offending owner whether they are the new kid on the block or someone looking to update.</p>
<p>Now, take a six unit TIC that&#8217;s been around for oh, I dunno, say 10 years, which has seen several resales, a few remodels, and voila! &#8211; Dante&#8217;s Hell of accounting.</p>
<p>To stave off any confusion, Ting plans to send out notices in July to all known Tenancies in Common, along with the yearly notice of assessed value, clarifying the city&#8217;s policy on separate assessments for TICs and how to request one. It&#8217;s important to note that simply getting a separate tax bill does not exclude every owner of the TIC partnership from being liable for both their share as well as the whole, in the event one owner falls behind. Thus reiterating the importance of a great TIC agreement and reserve account.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/01/BUEG10EF9N.DTL">S.F. may clarify TIC units&#8217; tax liabilities</a> [SFGate]<br /><a href="http://www.sfhomeblog.com/2007/09/calling-all-tenancy-in-common-owners.html">Calling ALL Tenancy in Common Owners</a> [SFHomeBlog]<br /><a href="http://www.sfhomeblog.com/2007/04/mapping-san-francisco-tics.html">Mapping San Francisco&#8217;s TICs</a> [SFHomeBlog]</p>
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